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Re: A86: Please read this!!! New shell!!! I need help!

Jimmy Mårdell wrote:

> KewlAid wrote:
> >
> >     Here is the proposal. We must create a shell to act as the
> > standard, to be useful in its existence.
>
> Yes, a standard must be created AND there is already a proposal on how
>
> the standard will look like. I don't have the URL to that location
> at the moment though.
>
> > MODULES PENDING CREATION (Explained in detail in reply mail)
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > -ICONS, 4-6 LETTER CAPTION
> > -BACKGROUND PIC, MAYBE GRAYSCALE
> > -VARIABLE-SPEED MOUSE, 8 DIRECTIONS, 2ND=LEFT CLICK, ALPHA=RIGHT
> CLICK
> > -START BUTTON
> > -APD
> > -PASSWORD PROTECTION
> > -STARTUP AND SHUTDOWN PROGRAMS
> > -BUILT-IN ICON EDITOR
>
> Umm... all these features are VERY unnecessary since, as you said,
> Asm(
> would execute a program just as fine. These features could be
> implemented
> in a SHELL, NOT the OS that loads the programs.
>
> > **THE FOLLOWING MODULES ARE EXPERIMENTAL**
> > -TASKS TRAY (works with multitasking)
> > -MULTITASKING
> > -TI-82, 83, AND 85 ASM SUPPORT
>
> And all these suggestions makes me think you have very limited asm
> knowledge.
> Multitasking!? Completely out of questions. It _could_ work, if the
> programs
> that would be supported got VERY restricted. And sacrificing that for
> something
> so unnecessary as multitasking is not that clever imho.

For multitasking, i was thinking more on the lines of pausing the
program.

>
>
> And TI-82&83 asm support... you could maybe EMULATE it, if you don't
> mind the
> games going 20 times slower. Since those calcs uses an external device
>
> to access
> graphics (and uses a port which isn't used on the 86), it would be
> impossible
> to support that.

Ok. I did not know of this difference in Port. Sorry

> As for 85 support - IT CAN'T BE DONE! If someone made a
> super-AI
> program that scans through a program and detects all calls to the ROM
> and exchanges
> those with the correct rom calls for the 86, you have a start. And you
>
> also have
> to change all RAM address... and how on earth are you going to run a
> program
> that's bigger than 10k (or 16k to make it extremly hard)!? A
> suggestion:
> before
> posting "possible features" like this - think it through yourself.
> Since
> you want
>
> > -DYNAMIC LIBRARIES, APPENDS TO SHELL
>
> At least something that's a good suggestion AND it's in the proposed
> standard
> as well.
>
> > -ACCELERATED BASIC
>
> Eh... making your own basic interpretor? Would would theoretically,
> although I
> doubt you can make it much faster than TI:s
>

BASIC converted into semi-ASM?

> > -BUILT-IN LINKPORT SOFTWARE
>
> Would most likely be in a library.
>
> --
> Jimmy Mårdell                "The nice thing about standards is that
> mailto:mja@algonet.se         there are so many of them to choose
> from."
> http://www.algonet.se/~mja
> IRC: Yarin                   "Sanity? I'm sure I have it on tape
> somewhere!"
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