Pearce, what do you mean by "them"? If you mean the both games, they are at ticalc... (if my memory serves me correct, Bombardment is an old ZShell game...) (or if you want, you can get TechWarez at http://surf.to/istar/) Tiger/Istar Random comment of the day: You have an unusual magnetic personality. Don't walk too close to metal objects which are not fastened down.