Re: LZ: Re: LZB: Here it is! The RAM/IO Expander
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Re: LZ: Re: LZB: Here it is! The RAM/IO Expander
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Marty Williams wrote:
> >>At 09:55 9/11/96 -0700, Marty Williams wrote:
> >>>Can you send them in, say a zip format as an attachment. I don't know what
> >>>to do with this?
> >>>
> >>>At 01:53 PM 9/11/96 GMT, Mel Tsai wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> [ tons of UUEncoded junk cut ]
> >>>>
>
> Ok, already... I am sorry for making such a big mistake on this list or the
> binaries list, by replying to an e-mail which included a large chunk of
> UUEncoded stuff. I should not have included the whole list in the reply.
> Ok, are you happy now.
>
> I am sorry for posting this on the zshell list. But, I'm doing this to make
> a point. And I will probably get flamed for this too; oh well. I don't
> have time for the crap to gos on here. I have a real life. I work full
> time, have a family with a son in "High School" (so I'm older than most
> folks on this list, but I'm only 40), and I'm going to school working on an
> engineering degree.
>
> I find it amazing how the high school maturity level as dominated this list.
> Most of the junk that go's on here is generated by this group. Over time,
> we have seen most people who work for a living, drop off this list or you
> never hear from them; like me. Here at my company, I know of several other
> engineers who use the TI 85. Who were on the list and could help solve many
> of the problems with hardware or software. But, because of the junk that
> dominates this list, they have dropped off. This group is a little short of
> professionals, and strong on those who have "just fallen off the turnip
> truck", and think they know everything. This is a great loss for everyone.
>
> The work that has been done here has been great. I am amazed at Zshell and
> even some of the games. However, most people beyond HS, don't have time to
> play games. What this group has fallen short on, is coming up with
> something really useful. The kids of this group may be good at writing
> games, but there is more to the world of software than games.
>
> The I2C stuff and namely the temp sensor has real promise. To be able to
> use your calc for something other than math and games. I am excited over
> the possibilities. I am currently starting work on two projects. One is a
> single chip IR transceiver and the other is an electronic compass. Both of
> these circuits are doable, but software will have to be written. Like most
> electronics engineers, I can build the hardware, but I can't write the
> software. I can "hack" at basic, C and a little asm.
>
> Is there anyone out there who is interested, who like to team up? If so,
> I'd like to chat with you. If not that's ok. And if all I get are flaming
> responses, then I say to you, "To hell with you!" I will also drop off the
> list (not that anyone will miss me), find someone here that will help with
> code, develop the devices myself. The list won't ever hear from me again.
Calm down. Don't let a bunch of rambunctious high school kids
run you off. I'm 55 and a half. 56 in November. So I have some
idea how you feel.
At first I was bothered by the shouting and the name calling and
the foul language. I've been on a lot of listserves and this is
the first one I've seen that sort of thing on. But at the same
time, I kept finding myself amazed at how ingenious these kids
are. They're doing some great work. Sure it's just games but
kids play games. So did I when I was a kid. Didn't you? I still
do, but not as much as they do. Look at the games, though.
There's some brilliant work there. There's lots of signs of their
inexperience but there are a lot of really fine programs. Also a
few realllly bad ones. But I wrote a few of those getting started
too.
I'm also bothered by the huge number of messages, most of them
meaningless, that I have to wade through to find the worthwhile
ones. But I keep finding such fine examples of people learning
and exploring and discovering that it's better than watching a
PBS documentary. Look a little closer. I think you'll see
what I'm talking about.
And any kids that are reading this that don't like me calling
you kids, go do your homework or something. :)
Barry
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