Re: LZ: f-term
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I'm not going to go into the feasability of the idea; ppl on the list are
contradicting each other.
>I just wrote you about not posting stuff like this to the list, but you
>haven't gotten it yet... so I won't mailbomb you, yet :) . Anyways, your
>idea is (again), not necessary.
Ok. I got what you were saying, and I feel with this letter that you either
aren't comprehending what I'm writing (VERY unlikely), you aren't reading
what I'm writing (not likely), or you've just decided that I'm the person
you want to piss off/hate this month. Re: that NS-92 isn't necessary.
ZSHELL isn't even necessary, if you come down to it. It just allows you to
do some things that are above average on your calc. That's the point of my
idea too.
>The 85 can't do graphx, or sound... so all we need is a text WWW
>browser.
Um, yeah. I don't want sound. That's ridiculous. I feel it's ridiculous
for any calculator considering the size of sound files. But thats another
story.
All YOU are shooting for is a text browser. I'm going for something a
little better. Yes, lynx (i DO know what that is) would work, but I'd
rather have something a little cooler. Why would a person with a PC use
lynx when NS would work? That's my point. If it's possible, I'd like to
try it. This might be the project that would teach me assembly, for I would
have to know it before I do something like this.
>And one exists already (if you have a shell account), it's
>called lynx.
Uh, yeah. That's already been said. I understand this.
>Just connect to your account with fterm, and run this, you
>can access anything on the web.
Same here. I know.
>The same with any other program... you can run ftp or telnet or whatever.
>Fterm support vt100 emulation, which
>all versions/flavors of unix should support, so writing browsers is
>uneccesary.
AH. So that's what vt100 is. And yes, if it can connect with a server, it
can send and recieve info. Which means that it could tell the server to run
a program. Yes, yes, yes. I understand all this.
And you're right. Browsers aren't necessary... if you don't feel like
working harder to do something better.
>As far as people who don't have shell access, there's not
>much we can do, because writing a TCP/IP driver would be EXTREMELY
>difficult (again, we just talked about this a couple of days ago).
This has already been stated. Tsai said that a TCP/IP "winsock" wouldn't
fit on a calculator, even with the 256k upgrade for the 92.
>Also, a Zterm (its not called that, I don't believe) will exist... I
>know two guys who've wrote an asm version on the 83, and the other one
>is going to port it to the 85 (or I'm supposed to, I can't remember).
Good. All my 85 friends can use this...
>But if you have shell access, you're set.
Everybody and his brother has said this.
>You're comment "I'm shooting for the idea, not the execution" is kind of
>ignorant.
That's the, uh, point. I'm ignorant of ALL the little gears and sprockets
in the caclulators. I'm asking the smart ppl so I won't get my hopes up. I
want to know if this could be something that I would use to MAKE myself
learn assembly.
>You can't really talk about einstein's theory of relativity if you don't
>know anything about physics or mathematics,
Then how come anyone can understand some of that theory with a simple
example: The rubber sheet explaination. Place a ball on a sheet of rubber
and that's what the space-time curve (sort of) looks like.
(That's the gist of the example. Are the specifics right?)
>and the same applies here... it's kind of
>pointless to make suggestions when you have no clue what you're talking
>about.
Ah, but I do (somewhat). I'm not a complete nitwit. Only partial..:^)
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