[A83] Re: assembly-83 Digest V3 #19


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hi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ecartis" <ecartis@lists.ticalc.org>
To: "assembly-83 digest users" <ecartis@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:36 AM
Subject: assembly-83 Digest V3 #19


> assembly-83 Digest Sat, 01 Feb 2003 Volume: 03  Issue: 019
>
> In This Issue:
> [A83] Re: Point of making your own lcd_busy?
> [A83] ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> [A83] Re: two things
> [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:12:17 +0100
> From: Tijl Coosemans <tijl@ulyssis.org>
> Subject: [A83] Re: Point of making your own lcd_busy?
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:35:48 -0600, Jeff wrote:
>
> > What is the point of wasting 5 bytes of memory, in a direct LCD
> > program, by writing your own lcd_busy subroutine, when it is already
> > in ROM?  TI has documented it's own ROM call _lcd_busy, but if that's
> > not good enough for us, we can call $07DE and it is exactly the same
> > thing, cycle per cycle, byte per byte, as: push af, inc hl, dec hl,
> > pop af, ret...
>
> not on all rom versions.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 14:29:31 +0100
> From: Martin <iemandiemand@xs4all.nl>
> Subject: [A83] ti83 / ti83+ compilation
>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is probably a stupid question but I ask it anyway. I've just made an
> ti83+ asm program in zds with the ti83plus.inc file and want to make a
> ti83- version. But I can't find a ti83.inc on ti's site and the
ti83asm.inc
> that I found didn't work right in zds when I tried it. Could somebody tell
> me the best way to compile it as an ti83- program.
>
> Thanks, Martin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> From: "David Revelj" <68000@home.se>
> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:13:24 +0100
>
>
> About the networking...I'm working on such a project in school. It's based
=
> around a counter and a multiplexer where four calculators take turns in s=
> ending/receiving. Seemed to be the most convenient solution to me.
>
> I also thought about the token-ring model. But i left the idea because i
co=
> uldn't think of a way to synchronize the sending when you only have on wi=
> re between each calculator.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Stijn van Drongelen" <grondnevels@lycos.nl>
> Subject: [A83] Re: two things
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:25:49 +0100
>
>
> Great! You'll need to change the OS or, if possible, make a hook. But I
> think it's gonna cost far too much memory...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Fineman" <amfineman@earthlink.net>
> To: ", Asm 83" <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:41 PM
> Subject: [A83] two things
>
>
> > i've got two ideas for customizing the main screen. Does anyone know if
> the would work?
> >    1.) Multi-Directional scrolling oon the home(other?) screen. Hold on,
> and use arrow keys to scrool around a 100?*100? screen(maby bigger?). this
> could be sued for veiwing long equations, or just to have fun in math
class.
> would this work
> >    2.) i heard of a program once that took your desktop, and made it
into
> a 3D enviovment. you could move left, right, foward(up), and back(down).
> this might be fun to add to a shell, but wouldn't it move pretty slow?
> > would any of these work? they'd both be sorta fun if they're completed
> > open to comments, flames, anything other than disscusions about
> TICcompilers and TI-Networks
> >
> >
> > Aaron Fineman
> > -----
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Corey" <corey@acz.org>
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:56:51 -0600
>
>
> well, you could have 2 wires.   and have a gate that switches them
depending
> on the header byte sent ;) but just depends how crazy you want to get.
>
> corey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Revelj" <68000@home.se>
> To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:13 AM
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
>
>
> About the networking...I'm working on such a project in school. It's based
> around a counter and a multiplexer where four calculators take turns in
> sending/receiving. Seemed to be the most convenient solution to me.
>
> I also thought about the token-ring model. But i left the idea because i
> couldn't think of a way to synchronize the sending when you only have on
> wire between each calculator.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Stijn van Drongelen" <grondnevels@lycos.nl>
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:10:31 +0100
>
>
> Use those two wires, one for transmit, one for receive. The best protocol
is
> probably Teletyping (TTY, like a RS-232 port)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Corey" <corey@acz.org>
> To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:56 PM
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
>
>
> > well, you could have 2 wires.   and have a gate that switches them
> depending
> > on the header byte sent ;) but just depends how crazy you want to get
> >
> > corey
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Revelj" <68000@home.se>
> > To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:13 AM
> > Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> >
> >
> > About the networking...I'm working on such a project in school. It's
based
> > around a counter and a multiplexer where four calculators take turns in
> > sending/receiving. Seemed to be the most convenient solution to me
> >
> > I also thought about the token-ring model. But i left the idea because i
> > couldn't think of a way to synchronize the sending when you only have on
> > wire between each calculator
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Jeff" <telepath75@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:43:18 -0600
>
>
> A counter/multiplexer is a very good idea.  Can you tell me more?  Have
you
> gotten it to work yet?
>
> A token-ring network does not mean wiring in a cirular structure.  Wiring
> for a token-ring network can use something like a hub.  What the ring is,
> though, is a system where the privelidge of sending data cycles around the
> "ring" of devices, by a signal in the network bus.  This is much like what
> you're doing.
>
> Jeff
>
> <---->
>
> About the networking...I'm working on such a project in school. It's based
> around a counter and a multiplexer where four calculators take turns in
> sending/receiving. Seemed to be the most convenient solution to me.
>
> I also thought about the token-ring model. But i left the idea because i
> couldn't think of a way to synchronize the sending when you only have on
> wire between each calculator.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Jeff" <telepath75@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:16:28 -0600
>
>
> Depending on your assembler, the EQU and END directives might not be
> compatible with your assembler's directives.  When I use the TI83ASM.INC
> file in my assembly programs, I always start my .z80 or .asm file with:
>
> .NOLIST
> #define end .end
> #define END .end
> #define equ .equ
> #define EQU .equ
> #include "ti83asm.inc"
> .LIST
>
> where end, END, equ, and EQU are directives present in the include file,
and
> .end and .equ are directives that my assembler understands.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin" <iemandiemand@xs4all.nl>
> To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:29 AM
> Subject: [A83] ti83 / ti83+ compilation
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is probably a stupid question but I ask it anyway. I've just made
an
> > ti83+ asm program in zds with the ti83plus.inc file and want to make a
> > ti83- version. But I can't find a ti83.inc on ti's site and the
> ti83asm.inc
> > that I found didn't work right in zds when I tried it. Could somebody
tell
> > me the best way to compile it as an ti83- program.
> >
> > Thanks, Martin
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:47:16 +0100
> From: Martin <iemandiemand@xs4all.nl>
> Subject: [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
>
>
> Zds understands the file without any trouble but there are a lot of
> constants missing from the file, I can't find a single getkey return code
> (eg kvars) All B_CALL's don't work anymore and a couple of other problems.
>
> At 13:16 1-2-03 -0600, you wrote:
> >Depending on your assembler, the EQU and END directives might not be
> >compatible with your assembler's directives.  When I use the TI83ASM.INC
> >file in my assembly programs, I always start my .z80 or .asm file with:
> >
> >.NOLIST
> >#define end .end
> >#define END .end
> >#define equ .equ
> >#define EQU .equ
> >#include "ti83asm.inc"
> >.LIST
> >
> >where end, END, equ, and EQU are directives present in the include file,
and
> >.end and .equ are directives that my assembler understands.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Martin" <iemandiemand@xs4all.nl>
> >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:29 AM
> >Subject: [A83] ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is probably a stupid question but I ask it anyway. I've just made
an
> > > ti83+ asm program in zds with the ti83plus.inc file and want to make a
> > > ti83- version. But I can't find a ti83.inc on ti's site and the
> >ti83asm.inc
> > > that I found didn't work right in zds when I tried it. Could somebody
tell
> > > me the best way to compile it as an ti83- program.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Martin
> > >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Dan Weiss" <dwedit@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 14:09:00 -0600
>
>
> The TI83- doesn't use bcalls at all.  You just call romcalls.  You might
> define b_call to be just plain call on the TI83-.
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:50:12 +0100 (CET)
> From: Peter-Martijn Kuipers <hbyte@hbyte.net>
> Subject: [A83] Re: ti83 / ti83+ compilation
>
>
> for the return codes you might want to try tokens.inc, and if that fails,
> I believe they are compatible with 83+ return codes, so you might be able
> to copy those out of ti83plus.inc
>
> --Peter-Martijn
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Martin wrote:
>
> > Zds understands the file without any trouble but there are a lot of
> > constants missing from the file, I can't find a single getkey return
code
> > (eg kvars) All B_CALL's don't work anymore and a couple of other
problems.
> >
> > At 13:16 1-2-03 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Depending on your assembler, the EQU and END directives might not be
> > >compatible with your assembler's directives.  When I use the
TI83ASM.INC
> > >file in my assembly programs, I always start my .z80 or .asm file with:
> > >
> > >.NOLIST
> > >#define end .end
> > >#define END .end
> > >#define equ .equ
> > >#define EQU .equ
> > >#include "ti83asm.inc"
> > >.LIST
> > >
> > >where end, END, equ, and EQU are directives present in the include
file, and
> > >.end and .equ are directives that my assembler understands.
> > >
> > >Jeff
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Martin" <iemandiemand@xs4all.nl>
> > >To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:29 AM
> > >Subject: [A83] ti83 / ti83+ compilation
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > This is probably a stupid question but I ask it anyway. I've just
made an
> > > > ti83+ asm program in zds with the ti83plus.inc file and want to make
a
> > > > ti83- version. But I can't find a ti83.inc on ti's site and the
> > >ti83asm.inc
> > > > that I found didn't work right in zds when I tried it. Could
somebody tell
> > > > me the best way to compile it as an ti83- program.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Martin
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Corey" <corey@acz.org>
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:36:06 -0600
>
>
> http://cables4computer.com/products/individualItem.asp?groupcode=I1018
>
> something like that could be an interesting possibility.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff" <telepath75@hotmail.com>
> To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:43 AM
> Subject: [A83] Re: calculator networking - good idea?
>
>
> > A counter/multiplexer is a very good idea.  Can you tell me more?  Have
> you
> > gotten it to work yet?
> >
> > A token-ring network does not mean wiring in a cirular structure.
Wiring
> > for a token-ring network can use something like a hub.  What the ring
is,
> > though, is a system where the privelidge of sending data cycles around
the
> > "ring" of devices, by a signal in the network bus.  This is much like
what
> > you're doing.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > <---->
> >
> > About the networking...I'm working on such a project in school. It's
based
> > around a counter and a multiplexer where four calculators take turns in
> > sending/receiving. Seemed to be the most convenient solution to me.
> >
> > I also thought about the token-ring model. But i left the idea because i
> > couldn't think of a way to synchronize the sending when you only have on
> > wire between each calculator.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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