[A83] Re: Me so curious
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[A83] Re: Me so curious
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter-Martijn Kuipers" <hyper@hbyte.net>
To: <assembly-83@lists.ticalc.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: [A83] Re: Me so curious
>
> > In that case, more questions:
> > 1. What if page 0 was mapped to 4000h? Would it run?
>
> IMHO no
>
> > 2. What if a flash page was mapped to C000h? Would it
> > run?
>
> Yes
>
> > 3. What is this special trick? Copying code from page
> > 0 to page 1?
>
> that's basicly it, it involves doing a little "paging" of your own,
> copying bits (not Binary digITS) of code from the latter half of your
> program to a space in the first half
>
> > 4. Why is the page starting at 8000h also mappable? Is
> > it used by ROM functions that access other FLASH pages
> > (ie _flashtoram)?
>
> It has something to do with the way the 83+ was designed...
> the SE has multiple ram pages, so you can map different pages to 8000-FFFF
> for "virtual calcs" (check out vcalc by DS if you want to know more)
>
> > >
> > > > 2. If _flashtoram with a=0 really copies from ram
> > > to
> > > > flash, how do you specify the page?
> > >
> > > the 83+ SDK doesn't mention this feature, where
> > > did you get this
> > > info?
> > The "Plasma" Ion-compatible shell says in its code:
> > ;Undocumented function of flashtoram. If a=0 it copies
> > form Ram! Me like this:)
> > ;Thank you joe f[lint] for discovering this.
>
> it doesn't say that it copys from ram to flash.
> it just copies from ram to ram, maybe just mapping some ram-page into
> 4000-7FFF, or doing no mapping at all....
>
> > However, it doesn't seem to use this function. I guess
> > I should be asking Joe Flint, or Brandon Engleberth
> > (the other author of Plasma). Does anyone know how to
> > directly write to Flash without going through the
> > TI-OS?
>
> One way to do it:
> rewire your 83+ in the inside, the calcs flash is user-inaccessible, from
> a software only point of view....
> sorry to disappoint you
No, it isn't. Michael V knows how, but he doesn't want to tell me until he
releases his OS =P
> > > > 3. Why is there no FlashApp shell for the TI-73?
> > > Or is
> > > > there and it's not on ticalc.org? (I had one a
> > > couple
> > > > years ago in school, which is why I'm asking.)
> > >
> > > perhaps it's not a thing mostly needed, If I
> > > remember correctly,
> > > the 73 can't normally execute assembly programs,
> > > just flash-apps
> > > (or am I totally wrong here)
> > > most shells provide extra functionality for
> > > asm-programs, unless they're
> > > crap, so, it's probably not needed
> > What Jimmy Pardey said: The app executes assembly code
> > stored in a program.
>
> well then: start making such a shell for it ;-)
>
> > >
> > > > 4. I can't remember :-) Ah well, I'll ask when I
> > > do.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > "The consequences of our actions are always so complicated,
> > so diverse, that predicting the future is a very difficult
> > business indeed." -Albus Dumbledore
>
> mwah, there should be at least a chance of 1/(10^133) of a working
> prediction.... oh that's right, at 1/(10^50) mathematicions consider it
> impossible ;-)
>
>
>
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