http://www.ticalc.org/pub/win/vti.zip That is the link to VTI version 2.5, beta 4, on the ticalc.org. It is for windows, and it can get just about anything. <A HREF="mailto:asimperson@aol.com">ASimPerson</A> <A HREF="mailto:asimweb@aol.com">ASimWeb</A> <A HREF="http://asimweb.tripod.com">http://asimweb.tripod.com</A>