Re: A83: Platforms
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Re: A83: Platforms
Linus Akesson wrote:
>
> On 06-Apr-99, you wrote:
>
> > Hey!
>
> > And: No more Zasmload.
>
> > I am thinking of dropping all support for Zasmload, as SoS is, well,
> > much better. (and sinlge-platform-development is more sensible)
>
> > Does anyone have any complaints?
>
> > The only advantages i can think off in favour of Zasmlaod is it can
> > be used by both Ashell and SoS users (and non-shell users). But who
> > uses Ashell? And who dossent use SoS?
>
> > And it allows for 'complete' games in one group file....As you cant
> > really distribute SoS as it keeps on changing. (always getting better;)
>
> > I thought maybe Joe W could address this. A very-lite SoS with
> > zero interface for running asm-programs with the name in ANS.
> > (like Zasmload...but with write back. And, although i dont use it,
> > extra libary support) A 'this will never change' version so it can
> > be included with the program.
>
> > Anyway, are there Ashell users or Zasmload-non-shell-people
> > who want to complian?
>
> > Thanks for any help here,
>
> > Bill J Ellis
> > ----------------------
> > Bill James Ellis
>
> > B.J.Ellis@hw.ac.uk
> > http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceebje/
>
> Yes, I'd like to put my $0.02 into this discussion. I don't use sos, and I
> never will. Sos contains bugs, you can't allocate memory from it, you can't
> mess around with the system as much as you would normally like, and it's just
> one shell among others (even though it is generally considered the best one).
>
> Zasmload has no bugs. It may be a bit unoptimized, but it does the job. My
> next game will take up nearly all the memory of the calculator, so I'm using
> a custom send(9:able loader. Instead of zasmload, and instead of sos.
>
> Pat is a better coder than Joe.
>
> I may not be that, but if there are bugs in my loader, then the bugs affect
> MY game, MY reputation and nothing more. I don't want to suffer from someone
> else's bugs, and I don't want to force my bugs onto other people.
>
> Library support, and definitely the way it is being implemented in sos,
> provides little or no advantage over writing your own, custom, small routines
> optimized for nothing but the actual tasks you need them for. The sprite
> routines may be a good example to beginners, an easy way of not having to
> write a new unlerlying basic graphics system just to try something out, _but_
> I don't recommend their usage in full-version, released games. That's what's
> taking up your precious memory.
>
> That and sos. Program swapping is good, but it can be done in a system
> friendly way. Sos doesn't do that. And as it goes, I can't seem to write one
> single, efficient, big production without using dynamic memory allocation.
> Although this would be fully possible and straight-forward to implement, sos
> doesn't allow dynamic memory allocation.
> And therefore, sos is not my friend.
>
> phew
>
> Linus
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How do you make loaders like Ashell. Or custum ones I am only vaguely
farmiiar with Send(9:loader nd have know Idea how it works. Pease Help
me!
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