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Choice Votes   Percent
Yes, it would make assembly programming easier for me 54 28.1%   
Yes, it would be nice to program in something other than assembly 62 32.3%   
No, assembly works just fine for me 21 10.9%   
No, I program just in BASIC, I have no interest in learning C 13 6.8%   
I don't have a z80 calculator 22 11.5%   
I have a different answer 20 10.4%   

Survey posted 2005-02-15 17:43 by Jon.

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Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Jonathan Katz  Account Info
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Survey idea by me :)

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 17:44 GMT

Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Timmc Account Info
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TASM, ZDS 3.68 anyone?
What would be good is a 83+ specific compiler with templates to start programming easily and setup routines quickly (FYI: not an oncalc compiler ;-))
Perhaps a good keyhook tutorial? ;oP

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 07:47 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Timmc Account Info
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*slightly off topic*
A student at my school bought an 84+ new, in it's packaging but once turned on there was no OS installed. Is it customary for TI to distribute calculators with no operating systems these days?
To top it off it's the students first calc and all the school computer have TIConnect1.5. For some reason that's not compatible with 84+s. ;-P

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 13:48 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Andy Janata  Account Info
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TI-Connect 1.5 *is* compatible with the 84+'s and the 89T... Something is probably just not configured properly, or it's not detecting the device since it doesn't have a proper OS.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 16:57 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Paul Houser Account Info
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Are you certain? This works on an 83+, not sure about an 84:
Take out one battery, let the calc sit 30 seconds, hold the CLEAR key while putting the battery back in, continue holding CLEAR, count to five, press ON while still holding CLEAR, release both keys. This will reset the calc to its original basecode (if installed). If not installed, I suggest you call TI and yell at them, but chances are that they'll tell you to do the same thing.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 18:45 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Greg M Account Info

Yes, and, just a FYI, but, the sequence to tell the TI to reload the os is remove one battery+hold down DEL+ press on. it may take a few tries, but, just link it to another 84+ at this point, and send the OS from the link menu. It worked for me after I had a rather bad crash awhile back...

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 03:02 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Paul Houser Account Info
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There's a DEL key on the 83? Guess I haven't used on in a while....

I'm certain, however, that the CLEAR-ON method works. I've made a cumulative $10 (10 x $1) "fixing" peer's calculators after they corrupted the operating system.

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 03:13 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Andy Janata  Account Info
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Clear just prevents it from scanning the archive. It has nothing to do with the OS or basecode.

Reply to this comment    20 February 2005, 20:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Lewk Of Serthic  Account Info
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There is a similar key combination to force it to accept a new OS. I think it's [Apps] instead of [Clear].

By the way, if anybody knows the OS force code for the 89 I would appreciate the knowledge. I had to use it once but now forget it.

Reply to this comment    18 February 2005, 19:28 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Peter Wakefield  Account Info

I thought it was [STAT] on the 84+s. If I remember correctly, [DEL] is for an I/O transfer, [STAT] is for a USB transfer.

Reply to this comment    18 February 2005, 22:44 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
x04ty29er  Account Info

That happened to me once. It doesn't read it, but just move the os to it using graph link. it will not be detected, but it will still transfer.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 22:23 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Sam Kumar  Account Info
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I HAVE ZDS! But it doesn't really help with C programming...

Reply to this comment    18 February 2005, 23:39 GMT


Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
tim qiao  Account Info

I program c on computer. i have no need for a c converter.

Reply to this comment    18 February 2005, 03:06 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Matt M Account Info

C is opsolete. C++ is much better and easier.

Reply to this comment    21 February 2005, 17:56 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
redsoxfan Account Info

That would be something, object-oriented programming on the z80 calcs.

Reply to this comment    21 February 2005, 18:48 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
echoghost Account Info
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C is not "opsolete" (obsolete). The whole Linux kernel is written in C. Just because C++ has OO doesn't mean that C sucks. You can write anything using OO properties that you can without using OO properties.

Now, a quote from the Kernel FAQ:

- Why don't we rewrite the Linux kernel in C++?
The fact is, C++ compilers are not trustworthy. They were even worse in 1992, but some fundamental facts haven't changed:

* the whole C++ exception handling thing is fundamentally broken. It's _especially_ broken for kernels.
* any compiler or language that likes to hide things like memory allocations behind your back just isn't a good choice for a kernel.
* you can write object-oriented code (useful for filesystems etc) in C, _without_ the cr*p that is C++.

C can do anything C++ can.

Many languages are based off of C, and not C++:

1. Perl (which is probably what this site runs on, seeing the .cgi extensions)
2. PHP (which is probably used on more sites than ever now)
3. Python (which made programs like BitTorrent)
4. Ruby

C also runs faster than C++, so why would it be obsolete if it ran faster:

(link is in the url)

as you can clearly see there, the only thing that beats C, is Digital D.

Reply to this comment    12 May 2005, 20:43 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Num Account Info
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Another reason why C is good, is that the code (usually) is smaller and runs faster. That's why TIGCC (as of 2006) use C, and not C++.

Reply to this comment    13 March 2006, 01:43 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
franker56  Account Info
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im the second voter w00t!

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 18:00 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Werner van Westering  Account Info

huh Im third

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 18:21 GMT

Re: Would you like to see a C compiler for the z80 caculators?
Patrick Stone  Account Info
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huh I'm fourth

Reply to this comment    15 February 2005, 18:25 GMT


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anykey  Account Info
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huh you're all losers.

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 00:45 GMT


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calkfreak83  Account Info
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Huh.. this'll all get deleted anyways...

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 01:12 GMT


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Jerk  Account Info

huh your right

Reply to this comment    16 February 2005, 20:21 GMT


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burnsn Account Info

Huh?

Reply to this comment    17 February 2005, 03:00 GMT


Re: Re: Re: Re: [ ! ]
Coolv  Account Info
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Huhmmmm.....

Reply to this comment    20 February 2005, 23:31 GMT

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